this theme that republicans and arch conservatives in the republican party really care about cutting taxes on the rich, but when you study the tea party and the folks in the tea party, the thing they actually really care about is immigration. it's a big priority for them. they do not want to offer "amnesty" of any kind. effectively, in taking up immigration reform, the elites of the party have told, you know, tea partiers and arch conservative elements, hey, we're not going to listen to you on this. what kind of -- >> i mean -- >> but does that -- i mean, i don't know. >> i think he is right about that, but i would take that -- i would flip it and reverse it because i think it implies there isn't latinos, which is really what the immigration reform compromise is all about are voting for democrats purely on the basis of immigration issues, which may be part of it, but also the other half of that gop elite equation is cutting very popular social insurance programs, so it's not clear that even if republicans piss off their base by going for immigration reform, that is enough for latino voters